Dr. Michael Olsterholm, epidemiologist and Lutheran, talks with Terry Gross how the coronavirus will be with us for months and “may come and go, but it will keep transmitting until we get at least 60 or 70% of the population infected and hopefully develop immunity.”

Olsterholm is far more concerned with transmission through the air rather than surfaces, stressing it’s how much time you spend in enclosed spaces.

And he dislikes the term social distancing. "It's physical distancing…don't socially distance. If there was ever a time when we all need each other, it's now," he says. "We need to start an epidemic of kindness right now to take on this pandemic of this virus."